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Zubaria Zahoor (OMG) Mock Interview | PMS Preparation
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then you can introduce yourself to all
of us
my name is Zubaria Zahoor and i am from
Kalar Syedan that is a the Tehsil of Rawalpindi district
so i was born in 1996 and since that
time i have been living in my own Tehsil
i got my primary education from there as
well but then after my intermediate for my
University education i had to move to
Texla and from there i did my bsc in computer
Engineering and after my graduation i
joined the corporate sector of Pakistan
and since that time i have been working in the field of IT
so after my graduation my first job was
as a team lead in 90 company and then i
had to leave that job in 2020 because of
my first attempt of civil services and
then right after giving my attempt i
joined another multinational i.t company
and there i’m serving as a manager right
now and that’s it for my educational background
and if you talk about my familial
background we are seven siblings with me
being a number five and all my elder
siblings are working in their respective
fields primarily in the field of
education my father is a retired government
servant from Pakistan atomic energy commission
and as far as my Interest for civil services is concerned
i have been at different leadership
roles at my university and other
educational institutions as well so that
gave me a motivation to be in a
leadership role and make a difference in
the society and do something
particularly for vulnerable communities
of my country especially minorities
children women and the senior citizens
as well and that’s all for now
you are currently working as a team lead
so currently i’m working as a manager
okay currently you are working as a manager yes sir in
non-tech manager knowledge what is the function
of a manager so manager is actually a
Second one in the hierarchy and
The function of a manager is to manage
all the operations that are going on in
an organization manage all the workings all the
procedures that are going on the scheduling
the qa as well the duties assigning the
duties and then doing the quality checking as well
tell me how do you make an assessment
about the performance of government
because somebody is managing
what do you think is it managing he’s
managing in a better way or there are some
challenges with the government is facing
in the management
yes sir i believe that there are some
challenges that the government is facing
and these challenges are inevitable
every government faces these kind of
challenges but and there are some
lacunas in our system what type of
challenges this government is facing and
let’s talk about the political scene
so if we talk about the political
challenges that this government is
facing there is a lack of consensus
and because of that lack of consensus is
the primary function of the political
system of a country or the primary
function of the legislative branch of
our country which is legislation that
cannot be done because of the
lack of consensus and that we just
saw when the governing party
presented the mini budget as well so we
would see that how there is a lack of
consensus between all the political
parties in our political system i read
somewhere that the the president
government has a sort of a
keep on going for confirm confrontation
with the opposition do you think this is
a good policy in this confessional policy no sir
as for my knowledge of political science
i don’t think this is a good policy
because for making a better political
system all the political parties in a
country they need to work in consensus
for the betterment of the people for the
betterment of the people who are being ruled
so this is not a good policy to be at
confrontation to be at loggerheads all
the time and not going towards the
do you see that this government can
change their policy and to bring sort of more harmony between the proposition and
the government it is the function of the
prairie benches i go yes sir do you think they can do it
sir um i think that everything is
achievable if you have the motivation if
you have the dedication to do that but
as far as the track record of this
comment is concerned as for now we
haven’t seen any landmark event where
the government has been in harmony with
the opposition but i think there are
some sane voices from both the
both the sides that can work together to
create a harmony between the two parties tell us
about national security policy which the
government has formulated
what are the sailing features
sir the national security policy of
the government was formulated some days
ago and the salient features are
actually to improve the security or
to actually look for the economic
security of the country so its main
focus was to move from the military
security to the economic security as our
stakeholders also talk about it that how
we can play a better role in the
region and in the global dynamics by
working on our economic policies the
mass media talking about there was
a clause about literature as well so
there are that’s like an umbrella
term for all the changes that they are
trying to adopt and it’s a long-term
policy it’s going to be there for
five years and there can be
modifications that that could be made by
the upcoming government
there are a certain parallel parallels
going on between the government of
Pakistan and the imf what is the update status
so i’m not sure about the update status
but as but the previous one they
were talking about making some
structural adjustments in our
economic system and they were asking for
more autonomy for state bank as well and
for that what is your understanding
of this more autonomy of state bank what
statement is there it is a product of
legislation it is functioning what do
you think what do you mean by more
autonomy sir as
far as the economic policies of the
country are concerned the government
is having major share in defining them
in making them and it’s having it’s
playing major role in this regard but
imf is actually asking for giving more
autonomy you’re giving more authority to
state banks so that it can be a decisive
factor or it can play a major role in
the formulation of policies rather than
the government
state banks should have more autonomy
over the government you are a student of
public policy yes sir and who is
what at what level policies are made
state bank is one of the organization of
the government yes sir so but the policy
making is with the parliament you know
yes sir policy making is primarily the
task of budget budget the finance bill
is passed by the parliament probably yes
sir i think the
one do you think state bank has limited
role yes sir i believe that what
what autonomy they are looking for
sir actually there is a conspiracy
there have been talks in Pakistan about
how how imf is trying to influence
the economy of Pakistan you have seen
the have you seen the ordinance or the
law of the state bank of Pakistan no
sir i’m not have you seen what are the
proposed changes they are looking for
no sir how you can speak
so that’s what i know as for my reading
what is the difference between
governance and good governance
sir governance is actually the
whole a whole term that is used for
all the parameters that is being between
the rulers and the ruled one for the
rulers or for the politicians for the
ruling government they are trying to
control the affairs of the state for the
public that is known as governance and
good governance is a kind of governance
we have good governance and we have bad
governance where do the characters take
up good coverage so good governance has
a different characteristic but i’m going
to talk about the primary ones the
important ones in good governance the
public should be given with all the
services that have been promised to them
in the constitution of a state
so number one there should be rule of
law number two there should be quality
of citizens number three there should be
accountability number four there should
be complete political participation of
all the all the population and
number five there should be a
independent judiciary
and there should be complete parties
electoral participation of people in the
social political dynamic of the country
in which year Pakistan resolution was
passed it was passed in
1940.
when congress was established in the
subcontinent as a congress to congress
was established in 1885 by aou and when
muslim all india muslim league was
established all india muslim league was
established in 1906.
when Pakistan got independence Pakistan
got its independence on 14th of august 1947.
who are the secretary of the 73
constitution can you name one two three
persons are the writers
the signatory of the 73 constitution Pakistan ?
well
so
may i make a guess okay do you tell me
what are the salient feature of Pakistan
consecution 1973
talking about the salient features of
1973 constitution number one it is it
promises a bicameral legislature
consisting of senate and national
assembly number two it talks about the
principle of federalism where there will
be a federation and there will be
some autonomous units known as provinces
in our constitution number three talks
about islamic province as well
number four he talks about making
local government in Pakistan number five
it grants us with the principles of
policy and the fundamental rights
number six there is objective resolution
as well and number seven it talks
about the appointment of judges
appointment of armed officers
appointment of the formation of
the legislature as well and it talks
about appointment of executives
that’s what i can recall as for now how
you compare Pakistan relations with the
usa
and then usa relation with india what
are your views
sir as far as history is concerned and
if we look at india’s relation
with u.s so india has been more
inclined towards russia in the past but
right now we can see for the containment
of china primarily in the indo-pacific
india is
inclining more towards the u.s is
inclining more towards india and we can
see the examples of
a quad and the exercises that have been
going on in malabar but if you talk
about Pakistan Pakistan has been with us
for a very long time but still
despite that long journey since the time
of situ center from the time of lyakat
ali khan and then talking about afghan
war then talking about war on terror and
the current scenario i think still
throughout this journey there is some
kind of mistrust
between us and Pakistan that we have not
been able to overcome
thank you
thank you
so pass is your first preference yes sir
what is the hierarchy of pass in a
district
sir in a district we have at the top
we have deputy commissioner
we have assistant commissioner and then
we have with assistant commissioner they
are working i’m not sure about the
official positions but there are
the sildars and there are gadawers and
bhatwaris who are working for land
revenues basically
compare the
pass which was formerly known as dmg
in the 90s and with the
pass which is in 21st century what are
the salient differences
self as far as dmg group is concerned
district management group i think
that i believe that had more powers than
the current past that is Pakistan
administrative services and in most of
the parts we would see they have
magistracy powers as well that
our public administrative servants today
don’t have especially in the areas of
punjab and kp
except for the tribal areas that’s one
difference i know and again it’s
about having more authority
and i think that authority has now been
limited
so
i just faced the executive magistracy
were withdrawn by whom
i said sorry i don’t know about
yesterday wasn’t sure thank you do you
think that
administration magistrate power should
rest with acs
or they shouldn’t rest with the acs
sir as we
learned that as we have read that
absolute power should not be given to
a particular position holder so i think
this decian was right if you look at the
previous records of dmg services i
think this is right and registrative
power it should not rest with the aces
until and unless like it’s it is granted
in some situations where it is needed
for example where there is a
situation of rule of law is in
jeopardy in that case registration power
is granted to them but generally i think
it’s not a good practice
yes sir what is the current status of
gilgamesh
was actually
in the politics as per the political map
of Pakistan gilgit baltistan was
being considered as a province but the
problems with that is
that gilgit baltistan is considered part
of kashmir and constitutionally is it
is it Pakistan’s province no sir
constitutionally it is not why not so
there are two primary reasons for that
number one if we consider it a province
then the de facto arrangement of india
like india is having control over indian
occupied kashmir Pakistan is having
control over the azad kashmir and gilgit
baltistan is on our side as well so they
would think that we have actually
accepted the defective arrangement of
kashmir number one is this issue and
number two is that if there is a
referendum as per you and resolution if
a referendum takes place for the
autonomy of kashmiris then we will
have to include the gb’s population with
azad kashmir as well okay so there is a
what’s bad in it
so i think that is a good strategy
adopted by Pakistan is pressing hard due
to cpec to declare gb as a province
if you are prime minister of Pakistan
what would be your answer or strategy
sorry if i would be prime minister of
Pakistan i would like to deal with it
diplomatically china knows china is very
well aware of our rivalry with india
over the issue of kashmir and china has
been with us in unsc as well so i think
we should take our friend in confidence
and we should tell them that these are
the factors that we are considering and
you should also
you are not in favor of making
a province
how much territorial percentage is with
india and how much territorial
percentage of jammu and kashmir is in
Pakistan i’m sorry sir i’m not aware of
that
so what about AJK why we have a
president in agk and we don’t have a
president in
gilgit Pakistan what is the
constitutional
status difference between gb and AJK
sir AJK is an autonomous unit that
has been granted in the constitution of
Pakistan and as far AJK is concerned
AJK is defined as an autonomous
territory that Pakistan is going to rule
until and unless there is a decision
about
the fate of kashmiris why can’t we do
the same with the gb
i’m not sure about that
what do you have to say about the recent
constitutional
amendment and the law passed regarding
electronic voting machine how do you see
it
sir being a student of computer being
a computer engineer and being in the
field of i.t i think
evm is not a good practice in Pakistan
now there are certain factors for that
number one it is prone to manipulation
it is prone to maneuverance and
a lot of hacking and a lot of
machinations can be used to actually
change the electoral results especially
in Pakistan we are lack we are
lacking capacity right now so i think to
build up that capacity even election
commission it sent 37 points
reservations to the parliament
for the
for this purpose yes yes for this
representative exactly secure all the
problems that have been with evs why the
president regime is bent upon
implementing it what do you see
sir the present political party that
is pti they might be having their own
objectives and we can see that
opposition is not at par with them for
this particular issue if you talk about
all these work first
yes because of the majority of the
government and their coalition parties
that was passed but still there are a
lot of loopholes and we can see certain
developed countries as well they did not
they adopted it and then they took it
back pass in a joint session
yes sir why there was a need to
summon the joint session
so that is still unknown to me as well
there was an urgency to adopt this bill
and to get it passed from the joint
session but
i don’t think that it is going to help
in Pakistan okay last question
since fund service is also your option
what is the difference between an
embassy and consulate
okay so embassy is actually a
representative of sovereign it’s
actually a representative office of the
sovereign offer state for example if we
have Pakistan embassy in u.s that is
representative of the Pakistani state
but if you talk about consulate that is
actually an embassy is only one for one
country in a particular region but if
you talk about consulate then there can
be more than one consulate and they are
actually there to provide services to
provide specially counsellor services to
all the citizens of that particular
country they don’t represent the
sovereign state
so they do represent the sovereign state
but if we talk about the principles like
diplomatic immunity that is granted to
that is
granted in more proportion to the
ambassadors as compared to the
councillors of the state
yes
i would like to seek your comment that
you said that this evm can be
manipulated yes sir why so we are ready
to trust this
technology
when it comes to financial transaction
we do millions of billions of rupees
transactions who are
like they do
these mobile applications but we are not
ready to trust this evm machines why so
there’s why there’s a contradiction
sir first of all as i already
mentioned there is a capacity lack of
capacity especially within the state of
Pakistan we might not be able to adopt
it especially at this particular stage
because of the
because we are already in shambles so if
we talk about trust on technology then
your point is valid that we keep saying
that all the banking should be online
all the banking should be through
websites applications but as far as evm
is concerned it actually talks about
the electoral process and i think as far
as electoral process is concerned
our
population is not that much aware and it
does not have that much awareness about
id tools specifically so even though to
maneuver their mind their
psychologically that is also they are
also very vulnerable in that regard and
if you talk about the electoral machines
as well i think the election commission
the organization that actually deals
with this process even that itself is
not comfortable build this capacity if
you don’t take a step in this direction
yes so we should take a step in this way
that means we should wait for first to
build a capacity then to introduce a
system yes so it can be introduced i.t
going with eager abundance going with it
that is always a better option but i
think for that we need first of all to
build the capacity to build the system
that everybody can trust how can you
build that
so i think it going to it’s going to
take a long time but we should take a
start and for that first of all the
people should be trained specifically
the electoral people who are
involved in the election commission i
believe that you have studied political
science constitutional law yes sir as
things evolved with the passage of time
yes so so you don’t say that we will
introduce democracy after 200 years when
people will have the ideas and they have
a capacity to choose their elected
representative wisely but because these
are the systems which eventually evolve
with the passage of time don’t you think
we will go for the policy the
implementation of evm and then say okay
start building the capacity over the
next five twenty thirty years we will
have a evm system which will like
address the concerns of all why don’t
you see
things in that way
so if you talk about democracy if you’re
talking about political systems and i
think these political systems have also
evolved after such a long time and there
have been different loopholes that have
been addressed addressed in the upcoming
tell me you’re a student of
constitutional law yes sir there are
certain segments in Pakistan who claim
that the constitution is just is nothing
more than a
piece of a paper but there are other
people who claim it’s a secret document
what makes constitution a secret
document
sir i think
for a state to be a state constitution
is actually the primary document that
that is actually a promise if you talk
about the social contract the theory of
social contact that was given by thomas
hobbs j.j rosso and then
lockheed they all talked about the
social contract so why do we have to
develop this social contact so that
people are
sure and people are promised all the
services for which they are actually
surrendering their free will and they
are succumbing to this general bill so
this constitution as per jg also is our
general will that all the people have
agreed to with respect to our state what
which one of these
whether governance issue or economic
issues which one of these in one of the
most important and pressing issues in
Pakistan in your opinion
sir i think the most important issues
are the governance and the political
issues because if we are able to
transform our political system then our
economic system that will that itself
will get better with time so if you
talk about political system i think the
most important point here is that
our political parties they need to be
in consensus secondly the legislation
the primary principle of the primary
objective of the legislature that needs
to be done and for example we have seen
different ordinances have been drawn in
the reign of this government so i think
that is not a good practice if we talk
about a democratic country so
legislation should be done and that too
for the problems of the Pakistani
people this is an issue
and then for that you study sociology
what is a conflict perspective so the
conflict perspective talks about the
evolution of society from a conflict
from a conflicting point of view it was
given by karl marx and he says that
there has always been a competition
there has always been a disassociative
relationship between different
stratas of a society and that’s how it
has evolved okay we have seen that we
are facing an issue of climate change
do you think the climate change issue
has a capacity to fuel conflict in the
society
yes sir i’m very much sure about this
and how is it so because climate change
is actually a phenomenon which is going
to affect more conflict perspective talk
talks about inequality and even climate
change we can have the we can apply the
principle of inequality as well there
are some regions for example if we take
example of east Pakistan and west
Pakistan east Pakistan was more inclined
to the climatic changes as compared to
west Pakistan we could see the examples
of bola cyclone and different storms
there as well so even that creates an
inequality and hence conflict in our
society one last question
why Pakistan administrative services
first preference
so as i mentioned already that i have
been in different leadership roles in my
academic institutions as well
and right now even since the time i
started my job i have been into
leadership positions and
i have been dealing with different
situations of crisis management and i
think i’m good to deal with people and
i’m a good leader and i have a team
building capacity and
i have
good managerial skills as well and that
makes me a good administrator sir
thanks
this is very young
okay tell me your political views are
more closer to restaurant or platter
so i would go with the aristotle that’s
total
so it means you are idealist
yes sir he was a realist he was
realistic
so i said i was you made me
mistrust my concepts okay okay
take it easy now
let’s tell can you name me the
political philosophers of roman empire
so
i i’ve just studied about one political
philosopher of roman empire and he
was sent augustine saint augustine it’s
august time
saint augustine have you not read about
thomas equinos no sir okay what was the
political philosophy of saint thomas
saint of this time sir saint
augustine was actually some one of the
pioneer of roman empire and
one of the pioneer of roman empire he
was there in the very beginning of the
roman empire as per my knowledge as for
my knowledge i don’t remember the year
can you tell me
who is considered as the modern
political thinker after the dark ages
sir there have been different modern
political thinkers after the dark ages
if you talk about 17th century
there have been political thinkers
like
as i have mentioned jj rosso we have
thomas hobbs who gave their philosophies
you didn’t say about mccabe yes sir they
call this machiavelli carl was new in
the backyard
so machiavelli actually talked about
the sovereign in his book the prince he
was actually talking about
we are going to look at the philosophers
with respect to the time and space in
which they were ruling so during the
time of machiavelli there was a lot of
political instability and the rulers
of medicaid medici and he was an italian
philosopher basically and during his
reign the ruler of that empire they
were expelled the medic he was from
medici family
medici family so he wrote the prince for
that particular perspective like the
prince is considered to be written as a
letter from him to that so he actually
told them that that these are the
attributes that need to be there in a
prince for achieving political stability
in history who is the author of spirit
of loss
sir i have read about it but it skipped
my mind
okay montesquieu was the author of
spirit of laws okay tell me what was the
crux of political theory of montesquiou
someone tesco actually came up with
this idea of separation of power so
he said the separation of powers that we
could see in different developed nations
right now the legislature executive and
judiciary so his crux first was his
political arrangement yes sir what was
his basic purpose of his political
philosophy
yes sir sir the basic purpose for this
political arrangement was to have checks
and balances
you wanted to establish liberty
yes
okay can you tell me how the political
philosophies of
hobbes
lock muntesque and rosso contributed
toward the making of u.s constitution
okay so if we talk about declaration of
independence for u.s constitution
that was the beginning document
in that i think
the role played by these
especially the reign of french
revolution and after that the
consequences i think those
french revolution happened it took
place in
1789 when american independence
declaration 1776
that happened after that so it was
empire it was inspired by the
philosophies of these because they talk
about again as i mentioned general will
they talk about liberty they talk about
all the promises that a state makes with
the rulers make with the ruled ones
the promises of liberty the promises of
equality of law the promises of rule of
law for all the basic necessities public
service delivery all of these so and no
one is above the law that is actually
the primary focus because before these
people used to believe in divine right
of kings so it was abolished after this
and you lost the right of king in all
european states
no sir not in all european states i’m
not sure about the states but i’m
sure about the relation between the two
what is the difference between gender
being will actual will and public mind
general will actually
actual will and general win so actual
will is actually free will
and generally so general will is
actually the will that has been adopted
by the society as a whole general that’s
why we call it general and free will is
my will what i want to do but general
will says that what i want to do cannot
be done because that might not be in
harmony with what other people of my own
society want to do
may i say generally is like the contract
yes sir that’s a social contract
social contract what utilitarian says
about the social contract sir
utilitarians stuart mill and
jeremy bentham they say that
whatever deeds we are doing whatever
deeds people are doing in a society or
in our state they should be done for a
positive purpose for a good reason and
this should be in favor of the majority
of the public
what is common
se communism is actually a political
system and it talks about
the system where the ultimate power is
held by the government and there is no
private property and the market forces
don’t control anything all the control
is exercised by the government and it’s
an economic system and the political
system as well and its refined version
is socialism that gives us economic
liberty but not the political what is
marxism then
so marxism
has some similarity with communism
but there are some differences
because marx always talks about the
conflict perspective but marx is the
leading contributor to communism as well
so there are some differences between
the two i think marx talks about
exploitation he talks about that because
of that exploitation the proletariat
it comes up and takes over the
bourgeoisie of the society and the
communism it talks about the government
they are actually the ruling ones and
they are controlling the people marxist
leninist interpretation of communism
so
marx i’ve explained the marxist
contribution talking about leninism he
talks about imperialism the basis of his
political philosophy is imperialism
because in that time he saw that how the
european powers especially the colonial
era how it was actually exploiting the
third world countries through their
imperial goals or their imperial
objectives come
and now 1892 indian council act can you
tell me the few important things or
features i’m sorry sir i’m not aware of
that
okay
in
1942 crips mission came to india
both the political leading political
parties rejected
that proposal that they brought
what was the take of indian national
congress and all india muslim league why
they reject it
say kripp’s mission was brought in by
sir stafford grips
who was the secretary of stat state at
that time so the basic features were
that at that time the english the
britishers they were looking for some
constitutional arrangements in the
subcontinent so and that came in the
particular era as well and after that we
would see after its rejection there was
a lot of chaos as well in the
subcontinent so the basic objective was
that they were not going to give the
liberty to the dominions of india and
that’s what indian national congress and
muslim league have been striving for
since the long time so and because of
that because of their
mistrust or because of their unhappiness
with the
particular mission and because of the
reorder and chaos that took place then
cabinet mission plan came and that
actually granted them with the liberty
that they wanted my last question
of india
and viceroy of india okay sir
previously we used to have governance
governors in india and then came the
voice roy so governors were there for
the first one was governor of bengal and
then came the vice choice so the
governors they used to work in harmony
with the east india company because at
that time the viceroys were not there
and the viceroys then reported to the
secretary of the state that was
established by the british legislature
for the indian subcontinent that’s what
i’m aware of
good news is that you have been
you have faced our tough tough questions
rather i will say and you will be better
off in the public service commission
they are good people
you have got a good personality your
communication skills are fine you are
full of energy they are the regularity
of thinking
mind is your sharp and you are in a
state of preparedness these are good
things thank you sir
confident
the
to win